[Psi-devel] Re: Re: Delivery confirmations
Yves Goergen
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Wed Mar 16 13:58:13 PST 2005
On 16.03.2005 22:21 (+0100), Trejkaz wrote:
> There is also a third possibility: the user got the message, they do support
> the feature, but the confirmation message failed to get back to the sender.
> LOL. But on a serious note, how do you know which client they had online at
> the time the message was received? Even if it were done using proper caps,
> if you're not online at the time they receive their message, you don't know
> their capabilities as you weren't there to see them. The way I see it, this
> sort of feature is almost exclusively for offline messages, as when the user
> is online, they can respond to the message directly, and you know they
> received it based on their response.
I'd say this is semi-determinable. You can only know for sure the
message was delivered, read, deleted or whatever the signal is about,
but you can't say it wasn't due to its missing. One-way proof.
* The network could have eaten up the message itself.
But also:
* The other client could not support this system.
* The other client could be teached to not support this system.
* The other client could be teached to not acknowledge anything.
* The network could have eaten up the reply.
* The recipient could wait an arbitrary time to take an action.
Did I forget something?
So on the UI side, there's a green checkmark if delivery has been
acknowledged and there's no checkmark otherwise. This is exactly the
same with e-mail today, be it TB's read ack message or Exchange's
delivery report. And I can't imagine public compatibility allows
anything else.
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