[Psi-Devel] "Remember" option on certificate warning

Jesse Thompson jesse.thompson at doit.wisc.edu
Mon Feb 23 10:11:08 PST 2009


Kevin Smith wrote:
>> What
>> about the suggestion that SRV names be checked against the server
>> cert?  That way you can host 100's of domains with the _same_ SRV
>> records and a single cert.
> 
> Unfortunately, that then ties TLS security into DNS security.

Then I think that there has to be a solution for the DNS security issue 
that doesn't make it impossible for the XMPP operators to manage their 
service.

The current situation of requiring that TLS solve the DNS issue has 
caused both the TLS and DNS issues to be ignored.

  * hosting providers such as us, Google, and others, are using 
mismatched certificates.  So, in Psi, you have to ignore all SSL errors, 
which leaves the users open to DNS forgery, and which TLS will not even 
warn about.

  * some other clients (such as Pidgin) don't even bother to verify that 
the certificate matches the domain.  I don't know why they do this, but 
I would bet that it has something to do with the number of services that 
have mismatched certificates.

  * I would venture to guess that many services aren't even implementing 
TLS because of all of this.

Jesse

-- 
   Jesse Thompson
   Division of Information Technology, University of Wisconsin-Madison
   Email/IM: jesse.thompson at doit.wisc.edu
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